No Intel Intercepts – Hungarian PM Viktor Orban Meets with Russian President Vladimir Putin

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Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban not only represents a friendly European voice to the objectives of the Trump administration, but also Orban is a close personal friend of President Trump both in and out of office.

Trump and Orban have long held a very close relationship, including friendship with the family of First-Lady Melania Trump.  They are all very close; Shinzo Abe-type close; both from the White House and time in Mar-a-Lago.

On November 7, 2025, Prime Minister Viktor Orban again visited President Trump in the White House, including dinner with the Trump cabinet.  Then word of the Ukraine corruption scandal broke.

A week following the White House visit (November 14) Prime Minister Orban said, “The golden illusion of Ukraine is falling apart. A wartime mafia network with countless ties to President Zelensky has been exposed. The energy minister has already resigned, and the main suspect has fled the country. This is the chaos into which the Brusselian elite want to pour European taxpayers’ money, where whatever isn’t shot off on the front lines ends up in the pockets of the war mafia. Madness. Thank you, but we want no part of this.”

The direct and non-pretending remarks from Viktor Orban highlighted a sense of the issue carried by a majority of the commonsense people around Russia, Europe, America and the world in general.  However, soon thereafter, as President Trump, Steve Witkoff and Marco Rubio were delivering deliberate terms to finally end the conflict, the western intelligence network leaked an intercepted phone call between Witkoff and Putin’s senior foreign policy advisor Ushakov.

The intelligence apparatus, likely originating from the U.K. purposefully wanted to disrupt all this peaceful resolution effort. The conflict has both benefactors and beneficiaries that do not want peace, both here and in Europe.

One week later, Vladimir Putin then gives a stunningly detailed and pragmatic speech outlining his perspective on the status of the issues from the sidelines of an economic cooperation summit in Kyrgyzstan.  Either Russia wins militarily or Ukraine/Europe/NATO moves forward on a diplomatic solution that delivers the same outcome.

It matters not, from the perspective of the Russian Federation, which approach to the same outcome is selected by those who control Ukraine.  Putin also notes the Ushakov/Witkoff intel leak is intended to undermine the negotiated settlement strategy and -as a consequence- he is not going to engage himself in the rabbit holes of western intelligence manipulation.

The day after President Putin returns to Moscow, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban arrives.

The European leaders were furious at the unexpected visit by Prime Minister Orban to Moscow for a bilateral discussion with President Vladimir Putin.  No one knew the meeting was going to take place; observing pearls were clutched.

It doesn’t take a geopolitical weed-walker to see the basic background.  Orban represents another channel directly from President Trump and the peace allies in Eastern Europe to President Putin.  Again, Orban offers to host the next meeting between President Trump and President Putin which hopefully will include President Zelenskyy and the coming to terms.

Participating in the meeting from the Russian side were Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, and Presidential Aide Yury Ushakov. Representing Hungary were Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade Peter Szijjarto, Minister of Construction and Transport Janos Lazar, and Chief National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister of Hungary Marcell Biro.

President of Russia Vladimir Putin: “Mr Prime Minister, colleagues. Allow me to extend a very warm welcome to you here in Moscow.

It is a great pleasure to see you in person. We are in regular contact by phone and our teams are in constant communication. I am particularly pleased that, despite the undoubted challenges of the present time, our relationship remains strong and continues to move forward.

Ours is a relationship with a long and complex history, but today it is built on the strongest foundation of the best in our shared past, as well as on pragmatism – a pragmatic approach to our bilateral ties.

We have known each other for many years, and I know you first and foremost as a steadfast champion of Hungary’s interests and the Hungarian people.

While our views on certain international issues may not always align, we have developed a relationship where we can speak with complete frankness and address any issues. This open dialogue allows us not only to address them but also to work together on finding solutions.

We are aware of your balanced position on the situation in Ukraine.

Turning to our bilateral relations, I must note with regret that last year we saw a decline in mutual trade. This was primarily due to external restrictions, but the scale of the decrease, 23 percent, is nonetheless significant.

That said, the outlook is promising. This year, we have already seen a modest recovery, with growth of over seven percent.

Our energy cooperation, of course, remains a cornerstone of our partnership, and there are several specific matters that we need to address.

Once again, we are delighted to have you with us. Welcome.”

Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orban (retranslated): “Mr President, First of all, I would like to thank you for the opportunity to hold talks with you here today. This is the 14th time I have met with you in the capacity of prime minister.

I believe that we have accomplished a great deal, considering the current historical moment, for the development of interaction between our nations, and I sincerely hope that we will be able to achieve even more.

As Mr President knows, we are pursuing a sovereign foreign policy. We have been consistent in our policy towards Russia. We are cooperating in vital spheres and have not yielded to external pressure; we have not terminated our interaction in any of these vital spheres.

I would like to emphasise that stable Russian energy deliveries in the past, today, and in the future are the foundation of Hungary’s energy security. We highly value the stability and predictability of Russian energy deliveries. Hungary is interested in maintaining an energy dialogue with your country, and today I would like to discuss this block of issues in detail.

Ukraine is a neighbour of Hungary, which is why Hungary fully feels the effects of the Ukrainian conflict, including a considerable economic impact, because economic cooperation is being hindered by the hostilities. This is true both for Europe and for us.

I would also like to reiterate what I told you during our previous meeting: Hungary is interested in peace, and we sincerely hope that the peace initiatives recently made public will eventually bring about peace.

Mr President, our meeting today offers an opportunity to reaffirm that Hungary is ready to provide a venue for such negotiations and to assist in the successful conclusion of that process.

I would like to thank you once again for meeting with us.”

Vladimir Putin: “Thank you for your reaction to the possibility of my meeting with the US President in your country. The idea was put forward by Donald, who said, “We have good relations with Hungary, and both you and I have good relations with Viktor, so I suggest this option.” We accepted it with pleasure, of course.

If there comes a moment in our negotiations when we will use Budapest as the venue, I would be glad to do so. I would like to thank you for your readiness to provide assistance.”

Now, many people will see this as yet another foreign policy distraction for President Trump. However, that could not be more incorrect.

President Trump is in the process of resetting the western economic and trade system to remove the tentacles of the globalist left.

A strategic partnership with Russia completely upends the global alliance and financial control system. There is nothing in the world of geopolitical networks (banking, finance, trade or military) more comprehensively disruptive to the current order of things than the possibility of Russia and the largest, most powerful and anchoring country in the West forming an alliance. Nothing else even comes close.

If President Trump can pull this off, everything changes.

EVERYTHING!

The main globalist, European and London-based defense against this looming nationalistic alliance is continued conflict with Russia.

I think Trump can pull it off.

I think only President Donald Trump is capable of destroying the old system and introducing a new dawn of nationalistic prosperity.  However, in order to get this level of tectonic change delivered, President Trump needs to blitz the media with shiny things, distracting things and things they can attack him with.

President Trump is drawing western media into a controlled geography.  The media are rushing into the area to attack him and his radical domestic policies on tariffs, immigration, deportation, citizenship baselines, Biden pardons, Venezuela drug boats etc.  However, Trump isn’t really in this valley; instead, he’s way over there working on something far more consequential.

I believe President Putin is willing to give Trump every opportunity for success, and I believe Viktor Orban was there to talk to him about it.