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Vivek Ramaswamy Isn’t Always Right, But He’s Usually Interesting

Vivek Ramaswamy Isn’t Always Right, But He’s Usually Interesting

It’s a good thing, particularly at this stage of the 2024 presidential race, that entrepreneur and author Vivek Ramaswamy is running.

That doesn’t mean he ought to be the Republican nominee. It’s too early in the campaign to know that. Right now, the smart money is still very definitely on Donald Trump, and — truth be told — Trump is doing a lot better job acting like the nominee. More policy, less snarky shots at other candidates is Trump’s golden ticket.

But something Ramaswamy said shortly after announcing he was running for president was interesting — as his statements usually are — and quite correct. Ramaswamy said that before we decide the “who” in the 2024 race, we should spend some time deciding the “what.”

And if that would set in among Republican voters, regardless of our preference in a candidate, we’d be better off.

It’s not a shot at Trump to note that the movement he’s helmed since early 2016 is not a Trump movement. It was there before he came on the scene. It — populist “outsider” conservatism — goes all the way back to Ronald Reagan. It went into remission when Reagan’s vice president, George H. W. Bush, mounted a hostile takeover of the GOP in 1988 and proceeded to drive it into the ground, but it resurfaced in 1994 with Newt Gingrich’s Contract With America and the House takeover that spawned. It went back into remission when another Bush took control of the GOP and squandered eight years in the White House pretending to be a “compassionate conservative” while launching pointless overseas wars without victory, but resurfaced with the Tea Party movement in 2009 and 2010.

Then after the Obama administration suppressed it with IRS audits and other governmental abuses, it resurfaced as Trump’s base of support, and now, with the House Freedom Caucus’ successes, it’s beginning to finally drive the Republican Party as its active ingredient.

Ramaswamy clearly sees this, and his statements on the campaign trail indicate that he’s very Trumpian in how he sees the world. Specifically, Ramaswamy notes that “woke capitalism,” the kind of corporate abuse of the market one sees with Gillette, Coca-Cola, BlackRock, and Silicon Valley Bank, isn’t just a destroyer of wealth but of culture and politics, and he also recognizes that it’s a broken window that Communist China is crawling through as it seeks to replace America as the world’s dominant power.

That’s a level of geopolitical understanding that goes even beyond Trump’s then-radical take on China during the 2016 cycle. The intelligentsia thought he was crazy to make so much of our negative trade relationship with the ChiComs, but it resonated across an America growing more and more uncomfortable with the tradeoff of a blown-out industrial base in exchange for cheap, disposable goods from Walmart and Amazon.

In the aftermath of COVID, it’s important to restage the relationship with China not just as a matter of our supply chain, though that’s crucial, but with respect to cultural and political influence. Chinese communist tentacles are far more obvious in America today than Soviet influence ever was during the Cold War, and Soviet influence was a persistent terror on both sides of the political aisle then.

So if we’re talking about the “what” before we get to the “who,” this is obviously a huge piece of the puzzle.

It’s interesting, then, that Ramaswamy would have dropped this take over the weekend on a subject that is germane to the question of the interplay between culture, politics, and economics with respect to “woke capitalism” and the corporate sphere:

Entrepreneur and 2024 Republican presidential nomination candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” that he disagreed with how Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) handled his disagreements with the Walt Disney Company.

Host Kaitlan Collins said, “Given what you said about limited government, do you agree with what Florida Governor Ron DeSantis did with Disney after they spoke out about his education bill?”

Ramaswamy said, “I would have handled that situation a little bit differently. We need to be precise about what the real drivers are of corporate wokeism. One of the underappreciated realities is that Disney’s largest shareholders are Blackrock, State Street, and Vanguard. They are the three institutions that promote ESG environmental and social agendas and are the largest shareholders of most American companies. They set a tone that causes these companies to behave in politicized ways from their boardrooms on down. That’s a problem that needs to be fixed through the market. I don’t really believe in government, whether it’s on the left or right. You see this on the left, too, using the bully pulpit as a way to drive corporate change. I think the right way to drive corporate change is to do it through the root cause itself, and in this case, a lot of that is top-down driven by the ESG movement in capital markets and in corporate America’s boardrooms.”

Was he right? No.

And not just because you don’t go on CNN, with their cable-access-channel-sized audience, and talk badly about other Republicans. That can be somewhat excused because hey — he has to build name ID anywhere he can.

He’s wrong because while it would be nice to be right about the impropriety of using government power to counteract leftist cultural aggressions, we have a track record to look at where the alternatives are concerned.

And it isn’t good.

This is, to an extent, the old libertarian-vs-nationalist-conservative argument, and Ramaswamy is trying to straddle it a bit by saying woke finance drives woke corporate activism; and since the government is far more engaged in financial markets than other things, it’s more appropriate to push on BlackRock than the general corporate economy.

But Disney isn’t woke because of those hedge funds. Disney didn’t need their money to go woke. Without a dime of BlackRock’s cash, you’d be having this problem with grooming and racial arson coming out of that media empire.

And he’s also neglecting to note that it’s a different scenario when you’re talking about what a state government does as opposed to the federal government. Florida popping Disney on its special taxing-district privilege is much less debatable as an abuse of government power than the feds doing it, because Disney could sell its property in Kissimmee and open up Woke Mouse World in Joliet or Woonsocket if it wanted.

The Constitution, after all, is pretty permissive when it comes to state power.

Nonetheless, it’s a good debate to have. And Ramaswamy is at least not taking the part of the old National Review corporatist crowd, which indicates he doesn’t subscribe to the idea that putting the letters “Inc.” behind one’s name confers moral and ethical infallibility.

And Ramaswamy was pretty good on the Silicon Valley Bank debacle, noting that this “not a bailout” is a bailout:

The Silicon Valley Bailout. That’s what this should be called. It wasn’t strictly a bailout of SVB. It was a bailout of the *tech companies* who made reckless financial decisions by depositing way too much $$ at SVB. If you wonder what fuels populism, now you know: it’s justified

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) March 13, 2023

It’s a bailout, pure and simple. For years, SVB and its cronies lobbied for looser risk limits by arguing that its failure wouldn’t create “systemic risk” and wouldn’t need special intervention by the U.S. government. Yellen’s announcement exposes that as the farce it is. pic.twitter.com/jOSOKdSHth

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) March 13, 2023

SVB was sure to kiss up to the Biden Admin before The Silicon Valley Bailout with over-the-top ESG commitments, including a staggering *$5 billion* to “Sustainable Finance” and “Carbon Neutral Operations.” pic.twitter.com/wfMlQbmkq6

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) March 13, 2023

What we need in the 2024 presidential race, especially on the Republican side because it isn’t possible to get it from Democrats, is interesting candidates with interesting ideas. That’s unfortunately not on offer from all of them — Nikki Haley, for example, has a few items that aren’t terrible, but, for the most part, she seems to want to run on an exotic ethnicity (which Ramaswamy shares but has very little interest in attempting to leverage) and the fact that she’s a #girlboss, as though anybody ought to care about that given how many horrendously awful female politicians we’ve been subjected to in the past couple of decades.

To close with a bit of hopeful news, Trump is beginning to look like an interesting candidate with interesting ideas as well. For example, he’s pushing “universal school choice” — which is reasonably interpreted as money-follows-the-child education funding, and he’s also talking about a parental veto of public school principals (meaning the parents could get together and vote to fire a ne’er-do-well principal), something that isn’t really actionable in federal law but could be a hell of an interesting check on woke aggression in K-12 education.

Ramaswamy would probably argue that the first of Trump’s ideas would make the second irrelevant, and a successful implementation of universal school choice might well make the market the driver of firing principals rather than a parental recall effort. But the point is that while we’re in the “what” stage, we ought to be kicking these ideas around and figuring out just what kind of party the GOP wants to be in 2024.

And it’s good to see some intellectual candlepower coming to the surface. There is none — nada, zip, zilch, bupkis — among the intersectional professional victims and identity politicians on the Democrat side.


While we are on the topic of this candidate, I am adding his response to Tucker Carlson’s questions, to candidates, about Ukraine. 

2024 GOP Presidential Candidate answers our Ukraine questionnaire (1/3) Is opposing Russia in Ukraine a vital American national strategic interest? “No, it is not “vital.” Rather, this is a stark reminder of what is a vital American national strategic interest: national energy independence. This war is a symptom of America’s lack of self sufficiency. Putin is a tyrant and started this needless war, but he did so because we created incentives that tipped the balance of his decision-making in favor of invading: if he knows the West relies on him to provide oil and gas (because the U.S. and Western Europe have self-inflicted limitations on their own ability or willingness to produce), then Putin is in a stronger position–and that led him to think he could win. The Biden Administration weakened our energy security, which created the conditions for Putin to invade Ukraine, which is of course an undesired outcome. Biden, in turn, responded by calling for more oil and gas production, pretty much everywhere in the world other than in the U.S. itself. The more America is reliant on foreign energy and oil, the less leverage we have with petro dictators. The Europeans need to be the main upholders of European security. The Europeans, starting with the Germans, need to do more for themselves. Unfortunately, the Germans chose to ‘go green’ on energy, and so they’re looking to us to shoulder the load on Ukraine, as well as defense in general. We spend close to 4 percent of our GDP on defense, and the Germans spend barely over 1 percent. Ukraine is in their backyard, not ours. If the Germans and other European countries can’t or won’t produce their own energy, they should buy natural gas from Louisiana and Texas—and from Pennsylvania and my home state of Ohio. Foreign policy is all about prioritization, my top two foreign policy priorities are to Declare Independence from Communist China and to annihilate the Mexican drug cartels. The main thing should be the main thing: focus on China. China wants the Ukraine war to last as long as possible to deplete Western military capacity before invading Taiwan. It’s working: we think we appear stronger by helping Ukraine, but we actually become weaker vis-à-vis China. We’ve spent 20 years droning people in caves in the Middle East and Central Asia and have little to show for it. We should be taking out the people who have caused the death of more than 100,000 Americans every year–the Mexican drug cartels.” What specifically is our objective in Ukraine, and how will we know when we’ve achieved it? “Our objective in Ukraine should be to respect any prior legal treaty commitments the U.S. has made, so as to preserve our credibility when it comes to commitments in the future, which I believe we have already fulfilled – and indeed gone beyond. (I make a clear distinction between commitments to which Congress was made aware and approved, and whatever secret deals the Biden administration might have cooked up.) The Budapest Memorandum, signed by Russia, Ukraine, the U.S. and the U.K., was supposed to assure Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons, a massive stockpile, and received security protections–but not an alliance or pledge to go to war, just a commitment to respect the sovereignty of existing borders. Whether that was the right decision to make in 1994 is a point of reasonable debate, but it is in our long-term self interest to stick by our word. And we have. But now it’s time to move on.”